The fear of female sexuality

[Sagittarius84]

@Sagittarius84 wrote:
Both at their core are an underlying fear of death...obviously violence has it consequences...but for the vast majority of hominid history ridicule/ostracism was a veritable death sentence by both active or passive means.

That is equating embarrassment and violence against women.
I’ve had a similar point in every relationship I’ve had with a man, a point where his ego gets bruised and it is so frightening to him.
I empathize, but I ask that it be put in proportion with reality.
Getting laughed at was something everyone learned to deal with in school, or with friends.
Now it’s the basis for a mass shooting. Snowflake fragility.

Let’s say Frank is laughed at in class for a blunder. He misspoke or misremembered a fact. Nothing major just some giggling.
Joe, Frank’s friend, goes home and his uncle is there, and does inappropriate things to him. Statistics on molestation and sexual abuse say that it’s likely this is ongoing. Opportunity and all.
Which boy had a greater damage done to him?

You want to know how casually men insult women? Ride a city bus with young men, in a group.
They will comment on women (and girls...they will sexualize preteens) negatively tastes any opportunity. They will make weight comments about women who are standing near a restaurant, women who just got off the bus, women just going about their lives not caring about their gaze.
Not only do they comment on looks, they also make crass comments. How they’d “do them” even though they have the audacity to not look like models. In crass language, so there is no question what they mean.
This was in “enlightened” Berkeley. But I’ve heard similar in Los Angeles, Portland, Denver, Columbia, SC, all across Texas, London, Brighton, Germans on a BA flight.

But have a woman call them out, and it’s war. The first thing after shut up is “I’ll hit you, bitch” or “suck my dick.”
They will move toward you, attempting to threaten (solo or in a group).
Words became violence in a second.
When a man calls them out, they move away, grumbling, with a “fuck you” tossed over the shoulder.

I'm not going to bog down in this argument because youre arguing a point that I dont disagree with and missing the one im trying to put forth...
But given the severe, immediate, and overt nature of the consequences you speak to i can recognize that even if what I say or argue holds some validity as to your individual or women's collective experiences, it probably wont be well received either way.

Apparently you didn't follow through with this

I reconsidered, what can I say. If fear of women's sexuality didnt inherently encompass mens thoughts and opinions it'd be an issue you could possibly address and solve without our input.

 

[4388301]

Honest question:

Do straight women never assess the effect the aesthetics of a male humans physical body has on the level of their immediate libido?

Not out loud. Back in single days, might nudge a friend and eye flick in the direction of someone who was especially lovely to look at. When not single? Given how abrasive n intrusive some of the fuckwits I have dealt with have been, plus general introverted like crazy? Silent like the grave.

Definitely not staring and I do not make it their concern in any way. Endeavor to never bring myself to their attention. I have a "thing" about not fantasizing about ppl if I do not have their explicit consent. I fantasize about imaginary stuff or past/present lovers. So. Me looking at someone, I do not comment on it. I have to have clear sign of mutual interest in flirt before make comment about someone.

Whether someone is being especially crass or not, catcalling, intruding on me when am just trying to go about my life? Gag. Pass. Making me stop what I am reading or making me remove my headphones, unless it is dire? Fuck off. I am not wanting to be social, much less be hit on.

As to thread main/original topic.. was silent about my libido with any penis having ppl that I actually got naked with for the first several years of being sexually active. If just online chat chat chat, then was more open about it, but they were never gonna meet me anyway. Thought it was weird/wrong of me, especially with super religious family, that I have high libido. Pop culture too, least what I was exposed to was largely "ohhh, these ppl with a penis want sex" but nothing really 'bout if you do not have a cock. So. Kept silent, angry, bitter, unsatisfied, silent. Thankfully, wised the fuck up n stopped caring if it was embarrassing or outside the norm. Folk are fucking me, not the swarming masses.

 

[Scarletbegonia]

Honest question:

Do straight women never assess the effect the aesthetics of a male humans physical body has on the level of their immediate libido?

Because women are individuals, yeah some woman somewhere has reacted solely to the appearance of a man. Perhaps it elevated her libido.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

I reconsidered, what can I say. If fear of women's sexuality didnt inherently encompass mens thoughts and opinions it'd be an issue you could possibly address and solve without our input.

I don't need it to be solved, I could not give a fuck less if you or any man fears my sexuality.

You should reconsider you reconsideration.

 

[6inchcock]

I don't need it to be solved, I could not give a fuck less if you or any man fears my sexuality.

You should reconsider you reconsideration.

That prose & rhetoric looks vaguely familiar...

 

[Sagittarius84]

I don't need it to be solved, I could not give a fuck less if you or any man fears my sexuality.

You should reconsider you reconsideration.

Ok then cool...
Ill take a page out of the opposing playbook and remind you I dont need any woman(or man for that matter) telling my adult self what it is i should or should not reconsider, when im perfectly capable of making that determination on my own even if it does rub some others the wrong way. Im not breaking any rules by contributing to this thread but im not going to capitulate to some minion hood by worshipping the altar of vagina like some other men here who'll say way off base shit other times with no similar thought policing by the women so quick to hop on me.
You dont want male input on an issue, put it in Ask a Woman, if you just want male agreement then make that clear.

 

[DiamondJoe]

Im not breaking any rules by contributing to this thread but im not going to capitulate to some minion hood by worshipping the altar of vagina like some other men

As a man who prefers the company of men, it seems a little ironic that you care this much about female sexuality. Or maybe you simply like to be contrary.

Just an observation.

 

[Sagittarius84]

As a man who prefers the company of men, it seems a little ironic that you care this much about female sexuality. Or maybe you simply like to be contrary.

Just an observation.

And you gathered i preferred the company of men from what again?

Oh I get it, not worshipping at the altar must secretly want dick huh?
Two drone strikes within a close timeframe...hmmmm, must really not be appealing to the hives management structure.

 

[6inchcock]

Sign me up for that alter of vagina thing

 

[DiamondJoe]

And you gathered i preferred the company of men from what again?

"100% Straight, 0% Gay"

 

[Scarletbegonia]

The stupidity in the dudes trolling dudes is getting prodigious.

 

[Tight_N_Juicy]

Ok then cool...
Ill take a page out of the opposing playbook and remind you I dont need any woman(or man for that matter) telling my adult self what it is i should or should not reconsider, when im perfectly capable of making that determination on my own even if it does rub some others the wrong way. Im not breaking any rules by contributing to this thread but im not going to capitulate to some minion hood by worshipping the altar of vagina like some other men here who'll say way off base shit other times with no similar thought policing by the women so quick to hop on me.
You dont want male input on an issue, put it in Ask a Woman, if you just want male agreement then make that clear.

Whatever. It was just a friendly fuckin suggestion. Take it or leave it.

I never said I don't want a man's input. I'm just tired of yours at the moment. I can get over it.

And I didn't start this fuckin thread. Don't tell me "put it in ask a woman" because I'm not a mod OR the original poster of this thread.

 

[286798]

Or maybe you simply like to be contrary.

I think this is it. As one who often posts a contrary opinion because A.) I have a different opinion, B.) I want the person to further explain their position because I truly want to understand their perspective, or C.) to force idiots on facebook to lose their shit... I recognize this tendency.

I don't have any beef with Sagittairus so there's no negative jab here... but I sometimes find him to be antagonistic and intentionally over-wordy and I don't respond because I don't want to put that much energy into the eventual retort... so what could be a decent exchange of ideas is lost.

 

[billybones]

I think a lot of straight men do have a resentment of female sexuality, which Is probably borne of insecurity and a fear of disloyalty. Maybe for some men it comes from an assumption of ownership. For me personally I have no fear of female sexuality because it’s irrelevant for me. The lack of fear doesn’t come from any particular evolved sensibility, but from a disinterest. It’s not a disinterest from lack of respect, it’s a disinterest out of respect for other humans and of my own homosexuality. I’m not threatened by it because it doesn’t affect me.

Except that time my friends and I went to a strip club for a bachelor party and one of my buddies paid for a lap dance for me and she got really into it. Rubbing vadge all on my knees and slapping my face with titties. My friends thought it was hysterical, I thought it was dreadful. Not because it was a woman, but because I have no use for strippers of either sex. Go go dancers at gay bars get no interest from me. I just paid $9 for this drink, please stop dangling your sweaty parts over it. And this bar is wet. You’re going to slip and fall and bust your ass. Get down from there. I’ve never had to pay for sex and insincere sexual interest is insulting. When I’d had enough of the chick stripper I grabbed a five dollar bill, pulled open her garter belt and slipped it in. It was at that moment a ginormous black man grabbed me out of my seat and practically carried me to the door. No one had informed me that you aren’t allowed to touch the girl strippers in any way. Apparently there was a sign stating as much at the front door, but I’d missed it. She just rubbed her baby makers all over me and I couldn’t pay her for it? It’s not as though she had pockets.

 

[Scarletbegonia]

Baby makers? man, anatomy needs to be a required subject in school.

 

[firsttimecaller]

Just because a woman is attractive to a man, it does not give him the right to fuck her.

Um, yes, this is correct.

What is the relevance of that to anything I posted?

 

[firsttimecaller]

I'm not sure I follow your question. If you're asking if I look at an attractive man (whatever thing trips our trigger) and get a little flutter in my lady parts?

Kind of.

Do you ever see a guy and think, "Mmmmm, I'd like to bury my face in that/those ________"

It's more likely that I'm gonna get a flutter from seeing a man show kindness to animals, old people, or children... granted that flutter is more likely to be in my heart, but those rumbles are deep.

Semi-related...

My wife relayed an article to me a few years ago.

Gist was, the neurological response that a dude has to seeing appealing aspects of the female body is very similar to the response a woman has to seeing a bunch of kittens or a pretty butterfly.

If you're asking if I think that physical attraction gives me the right to say something to him, do something to him or that he owes me anything sexually? No. Never. Ever.

Being that this is the second one of these:

Did I somehow infer that I feel this way?

 

[firsttimecaller]

Because women are individuals, yeah some woman somewhere has reacted solely to the appearance of a man. Perhaps it elevated her libido.

(Assuming appearance = how they look)

Are you upset by the fact that appearance alone is enough to make a guy interested in sex-type-stuff?

Are you upset that they vocalize it?

Are you upset that it is not eloquently vocalized?

 

[DiamondJoe]

^ anyone would think yr looking for an argument, mate

 

[firsttimecaller]

Not out loud...plus general introverted like crazy? Silent like the grave.

Ha, this is pretty much me as well

I've never really asked a gal on a date, let alone yell some random crass shit at one.