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| EarlCiel, your reasoning is very interesting, and both the idea of absolute hope born from the worst possible despair (Komaeda mastermind) and the idea of a twisted hope that wants to crush other hopes in order to shine (Mitarai mastermind) would be fitting motives for the actual situation. I would like to give some thoughts of mine. Some of them are not that important. Once again, I personally support no theory, I only make observations and raise points that could explain some theories. - Most of us assumed that Monaka was hiding behind the Monokuma secret door. Well, she was not. So the question rises again: what is the purpose of this door? Who or what is hiding behind? Some people believe that Hagakure doesn't count as a participant and a secret player therefore exists. What if they hid there? - EarlCiel made the observation that Monaka knew with confidence that someone was going to die because of Naegi, so she has information. There are a lot of ways she could have obtained it. Here are some: hacking, making her own observations in the game (the sleeping gas should not be effective on a mere puppet), knowing the mastermind's identity, mindset, and/or plans. - The person who's going to die will die because of Naegi. What could this refer to? I can think of two likely possibilities: a forbidden action that is linked to Naegi, or Togami getting killed on his way to help his friends because Naegi called him. I considered the possibility of someone being killed by the attacker to bring Naegi into despair. But why would Monaka also know which one will die? I believe Naegi would be as crushed by the death of Kirigiri as he would be if Asahina died - especially since she's been with him the entire time in this final killing game. So it does not make sense to me. - It occured to me that Kizakura is Jin Kirigiri's friend. So unless he is a traitor or a not-so-reliable friend, he's going to protect her daughter 100% and it may be why he's staying close to her. That point was to reassure a little more those who are worried for Kirigiri's life. - With the way Naegi is aimlessly playing the game right now, he's basically a less inspiring version of Kanzaki Nao from Liar Game. So he's going to need a major kick in the pants to get his shit together. And even then I doubt he has the smarts nor the abilities to get the job done in this situation. What I mean is: Kirigiri and Togami are much needed here for practical reasons. Asahina, whom I love even more in this anime, on the other hand, seems to fill more of an emotional role. Just saying... - I don't know whether or not any of us went to the trouble of collecting everything Tengan said in the first five episodes. If not, I plan on doing it. I especially remember that he told Munakata that the logic behind the traitor's identity is too simple for him to understand. Could be a clue. |
| this was a pretty absurd episode. i liked touko's dirty fantasies though, especially with that utena reference. and i wonder who of the survivors is going to die, the last scene makes it seem like it's going to be kirigiri but that would be too obvious. i don't really want any of them to die though ;_; |
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| Nice to see Naegi's sister and that phsyco girl in this episode. even tho i kinda know that the mastermind is a different person, but it was surpising to me to know that one of them, who survived the killing game who was made by Junko will die. Kirigiri, Togami, Asahina, Fukawa, Hagakure, and Naegi. i'm guessing Kirigiri. i just have a feeling that she might die in this series. looking foward to the next episode :D |
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| Honestly, not that interesting episode for me personally. Probably it was better for the people that played the despair girls game. Also, it might be obvious by now but...  Game Over at stage 8... |
| So, someone noticed that Scout dude is always with his hand in his pocket. Like always. And took some screenshots. https://imgur.com/a/3Zg99#9q8TpMt I will try to find the full theory, if there is one. But it is kinda strange huh I never noticed it XD |
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taynis said: So, someone noticed that Scout dude is always with his hand in his pocket. Like always. And took some screenshots. https://imgur.com/a/3Zg99#9q8TpMt I will try to find the full theory, if there is one. But it is kinda strange huh I never noticed it XD Wow ! I haven't notice that at all XDD |
CyberPunch said: taynis said: So, someone noticed that Scout dude is always with his hand in his pocket. Like always. And took some screenshots. https://imgur.com/a/3Zg99#9q8TpMt I will try to find the full theory, if there is one. But it is kinda strange huh I never noticed it XD He's enjoying the game a bit too much. But really, interesting observation, either it's a habit, or maybe it has something to so with his foribidden action? Edit: lol at the one of him waking up from sleep and it's still there. HAEHIAHUAIEHAIUEHAUEHAEIUHAIUHEIUAHIUAHEIUAH HMMMMM ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Yeah, maybe his NG Code is that he can't take his left hand from his pocket or something like that. Or use his left hand, so he keep it in his pocket to be safe? o-o |
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| "Google it up shitlord" Damn I fucking love THIS MONACA. |
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| Kirigiri will die. Why? Because none of the major surviving characters from Danganronpa has a surviving ship. Sayaka - Dead. Mukuro - Dead. Chiaki - Dead. Peko - (brain)Dead. Mahiru - (brain)Dead. Gundham - (brain)Dead. Nekomaru - (brain)Dead. Yukizome - Dead. Then Hagakure's dumb prediction will come true and both he and Naegi will have a child with Asahina. R.I.P NaeGiri. :'( Also, you know... she's, like, the only one capable of figuring out the traitor due to her detective skills and stuff. So, yeah, be a good idea to kill her off. :/ I love the friendship between Komaru and Toko. AE did wonders for developing them both. I didn't like Toko until that game and I loved how mature and strong she became in that game to support Komaru. So glad Kodaka left her in Towa City with Komaru. She's far more endearing around her than she is Togami.   Just precious! |
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| I guess this was the only episode dedicated to my favorite despair girls. Next episode may be on the Jabberwock Island, if not I am sure the following one will be. The one to die seems like Kirigiri, but I think it will be Byakuya. So, anyone tried to Google it? Found something pretty accurate here. Everyone with below 50% survival chance died except Sakakura and Kirigiri. Lets hope Sakakura burns and Kirigiri survives. |
OonokamiAug 23, 2016 2:04 PM
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| Boring episode. Giving us literaly nothing. Kirigi got cliffhangered, so probably she wont die. I assume Asahina or Byakuya will die but whatever, Hakagure and Togami are not fan favourite charachters so killing them will not harm anyone. |
MonoReaper said: At this point the most likely theory`s are Nagei or Kirigri have a sleeping Junko AI in them and are the attackers. 35 % possibility Munakata on the edge of edgy despair being the masterdork 45% Mitarai my boy being.......whatever it may be 50 % Animeception Kodakas Ultimate Troll 68 % The random plottwist nobody expected 99 % What is even going on this is true despair 1% Sooo much truuuthhh. haha I feel like I want to brace myself for the random plottwist for at least having some clue of what's going on...but my gosh. Kodaka is legit the ultimate troll I cannot with him. Always keeping us guessing with crazy theories haha. But as you said with the Warriors of Hope...I always assumed they were dead too so it really was such a surprise. One of these nice surprises in the season! :D And you're completely right about how Monaca saw Junko. I'm assuming every remnant of despair had different reasons for joining forces with Junko, as we saw with Izuru, and these reasons really do dictate whether or not they would remain 100% loyal to Junko's vision of spreading despair all over the world. Izuru would definitely oppose this, since he just joined really for his benefit and really is doing is own thing. Then we have Komaeda who is also doing his own thing...and then there's Monaca. Monaca's out of the picture, so that's why for me Komaeda and Izuru definitely raise huge red flags. |
This is exactly what ran through my head after that info was revealed. The Kirigiri/Munakata scene at the end felt like an obvious red herring, and as much as I hate to admit it I could see Asahina getting killed off purely for Naegi's man pain (especially since she's been his #1 supporter in this show). Also thinking back to that time when Naegi was rescued from Munakata....didn't Tengan say that Naegi being held hostage was a ploy to weed out the "true traitor/remnants of despair" or whatever? I can't remember if Robo-Miaya Gekkougahara was there for that conversation or not but if she was that could explain why she'd think Asahina will die as Asahina and Tengan were the ones to go save Naegi...and Munakata already killed Tengan so. I hope I'm wrong about all this though. Asahina seems like too obvious of a choice to have a "tragic death". I'd be disappointed if it went down that route. |
| good thing that I started watching a playthrough of Another Episode even though, I haven't touched it since, with Chapter 1 still not finished. It introduced me the characters but it's sad that I now know that the other 4 Warriors of Hope will defect on despair because it's now a spoiler for me haha. |
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| They better not kill Asahina (Again) |
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arvin_1219 said: good thing that I started watching a playthrough of Another Episode even though, I haven't touched it since, with Chapter 1 still not finished. It introduced me the characters but it's sad that I now know that the other 4 Warriors of Hope will defect on despair because it's now a spoiler for me haha. The events in the anime happens after the game. The kids were bad and now they are good/not bad |
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_AnimeLover__ said: Tennouji said: she didnt killed him and the room is locked from the inside. Im going to have this feeling, there is going to be a huge twist in the next episode regarding the room they all wake up in before monokuma appearance and that lock room murder.So I kinda knew it there'll be a twist that Monaca isn't a culprit but it doesn't change the fact that she killed Gozu. Then, that fucking asshole Munakata? But I get a feeling that it's not him either... But the way how Gozu is killed and the fact is a locked room, there's no doubt the one who killed Gozu is Monaca and she killed him just because mostly she wants to join the game and have fun. |
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| I'm back again and did anyone notice how some of the scenes in this episode would freeze and the bg music would play like if a game was loading? Is that just like special effects for DR: AE episode or is Kodaka trying to tell us something?? (idk how many times i've asked this question in the past 4 years tbh) MonoReaper said: At this point the most likely theory`s are Nagei or Kirigri have a sleeping Junko AI in them and are the attackers. 35 % possibility Munakata on the edge of edgy despair being the masterdork 45% Mitarai my boy being.......whatever it may be 50 % Animeception Kodakas Ultimate Troll 68 % The random plottwist nobody expected 99 % What is even going on this is true despair 1% my vote goes to "what is even going on, this is true despair" because seriously why am i still suffering by thinking too much about this show after so many years. |
| Definitely a departure from the last 6 episodes but not unwelcome. Reintroducing what another episode was about slowed down the pace a bit, but this is supposed to be an end to the entire Hope's Peak DR series, it was needed. And Monica killed it this episode. I think Togami or Kirigi will die. They normally would be the least likely to die, but this is DR man... Also they are love interests to other important characters. |
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| Looks like we got an episode that was pretty much all DanganRonpa: Another Episode based. I'd have to say that I enjoy Monaca a bit more as a character now than when I played the game. She just angered me so much during the game, but she's a tad more likable now. I find it funny how she turned into a NEET and played on her "Game Girl ADVANCE" and gave on despair thanks to "Servant Kun" aka Komaeda. She really reminded me of Junko a whole bunch in this episode because of her personality changes. I really enjoyed seeing Toko and Komaru getting some action in this ep, especially since Komaru used a bunch of different hacking gun bullets on the Monokumas. It was cool seeing Toko use the taser gun on herself to switch to her Genocyder Syo personality when they were fighting too. Toko's fantasties involving Togami were pretty comical too, and while I didn't get all of the outside references I enjoyed them. My favourite part of Komaru and Toko fighing together is when Komaru used the "dance" bullet on the Monokumas. Ahhh, we got to see the other Warriors of Hope from Ultra Despair Girls for a second, which was pretty nice. Jataro actually didn't have his mask on either, so that was pretty sweet. I'm happy that the kids are all alive in this timeline. I definitely want to see more Kotoko, but this was sadly probably her only appearance. It was great hearing the OSTs from the game play during the episode this week. Gave me some major nostalgia (and chills) and made me want to replay UDG. I like Monaca the least out of all of the UDG kids, so it wouldn't bother me if we don't see her again. Looks like Komaru and Toko now have control over the Gekkougahara robot. Maybe they'll be able to help out Makoto a bit in the killing game?? Sadly I think Kirigiri is going to die next because Asahina already survived her deathflag. I mean it could be Yasuhiro, but that wouldn't really have as much of an impact. Yo, if he's the mastermind I will be laughing my ass off. Apparently Monaca isn't the mastermind but merely a traitor. Since they revealed her too early in the series it wouldn't make sense for her to be the mastermind. I'm still leaning towards the animator dude because of his interactions with the SHSL Imposter in the Despair Arc. It would be hilarious if the writer made the traitor the top Google result for the SDR3 mastermind because of what Monaca said. I feel like we're all being trolled, tbh. (If you want to talk about trolling, though, just think about what Monaca did to Asahina with the ketchup. I still know it was Monaca who MUST have killed the Great Gozu.) Anyways, I'm hoping to see more action with the people inside of the killing game building next week. I want to see if there will be anything to come of the SHSL Blacksmith's death. He seriously should have had more characterization other than a junkie who was addicted to the Confectioner's sweets & someone who was expelled from Hope's Peak. There was so much potential with his character and I feel like it was wasted. Anyways, looking forward to some more despair next week. Let's see if we can pinpoint the mastermind! |
| Did anyone try to google 'it' like Monaka said? Just out of curiosity: who would take a bet and say that, somehow, Junko Enoshima is the mastermind of Danganronpa 3? |
| pls god no, don't kill any of them. pls. loved this ep tho, UDG are great. |
| "My name is John Locke, and I'm responsible for the well being of this Island" |
EBlack said: Boring episode. Giving us literaly nothing. Kirigi got cliffhangered, so probably she wont die. I assume Asahina or Byakuya will die but whatever, Hakagure and Togami are not fan favourite charachters so killing them will not harm anyone. Togami is the most popular character in DR1. |
Pride-Aug 23, 2016 11:10 PM
| Welp, this is a pretty shitty episode. Probably because I didn't play UDG :/ The only thing I enjoyed is that maruko reference, lol. |
DampVamp69 said: Pride- said: Togami is the most popular character in DR1. Actually, Makoto Naegi is the most popular character according to Japanese fan polls. I know what you're talking about but that poll was about characters from DR3 and it exclude Togami because he wasn't introduced yet. Togami was first in the official poll of DR1 with Naegi second and Ishimaru third. |
MoonStar9 said: Kirigiri will die. Why? Because none of the major surviving characters from Danganronpa has a surviving ship. Sayaka - Dead. Mukuro - Dead. Chiaki - Dead. Peko - (brain)Dead. Mahiru - (brain)Dead. Gundham - (brain)Dead. Nekomaru - (brain)Dead. Yukizome - Dead. Then Hagakure's dumb prediction will come true and both he and Naegi will have a child with Asahina. R.I.P NaeGiri. :'( Also, you know... she's, like, the only one capable of figuring out the traitor due to her detective skills and stuff. So, yeah, be a good idea to kill her off. :/ I love the friendship between Komaru and Toko. AE did wonders for developing them both. I didn't like Toko until that game and I loved how mature and strong she became in that game to support Komaru. So glad Kodaka left her in Towa City with Komaru. She's far more endearing around her than she is Togami. Just precious! When did Chiaki die? I know AI Chiaki is dead but the real Chiaki's status is currently unknown. Though I'm pretty sure she is dead and I'm willing to bet that the Despair Arc ends with her death, finally giving us the answer of what happens to the real one. Poor Chiaki, both human and AI. |
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| So many details, I decided to rewatch the Mirai-hen episodes as well. Here is what I found in the first 2 episodes: Opening: - The first opening has clear deaths. There are some suspicions on Kizakura, and in his death (he is suffocated in a plastic bag) there are some of his items in bags as well. I see his hat and his flask, but the others I can't really tell. Are they probably parts of his suit, like his tie and shoe? Maybe there is nothing of importance, but just in case. - This keeps repeating in the rest of the openings so far, but when the bracelets of each person is targeted, Hagakure's has his beads bracelet targeted instead (well, he was outside so...) - Third thing in the opening that also keeps repeating: when Naegi's bracelet is targeted, there are some words that flashes in a subliminal way? One of them is "Sleeping Pills". - For some reason, in one of Naegi´s face close ups the image of Ruruka, Izayoi and Seiko appears. Episode 1: - When Naegi is hit by Juuzo after being handcuffed, Asahina tries to defend him, but then Izayoi throws a...kunai? and it ends stuck on the door. Episode 2 will explain. - At one moment we are shown the full room so we can see where was each person before they got gassed. - We are shown a rolling sleeping ball ending next to Gozu. The direction it came from suggests that it could have been thrown by either Chisa, Bandai or Kizakura. - Izayoi doesn´t seem shocked when the gas filled the room, but maybe that´s because of his stoic character. - When they woke up, everybody was placed in a different part of the room, except for Naegi, Munakata and Bandai. - Chisa died with her eyes opened and she was also crying. This suggests me (and this is my theory) that she died while being awake. - Chisa is wearing a killing game bracelet. Episode 2: - Kirigiri notices the blade/kunai Izayoi threw was not on the door. She also noticed it left no mark on the door, despite it being stuck there before. - When Munakata asked everyone to point at the most suspicious person in the room, Ruruka, Izayoi and Seiko were apparently pointing at Naegi. But after knowing their background story, it might actually be that they were pointing at each other ^____^;;;;; Ruruka even comments later she thinks Seiko is the culprit. - Also, when asked to point the culprit, Kizakura pointed at Gekkougahara. This guy knows.... - From the moment they woke up until Naegi scaped the room, Kirigiri never said a word to him. I strongly believe that her Forbidden Action might be ¨Talking to Naegi¨or something like that. And that is why I think Monaka says that because of Naegi someone of his classroom is gonna die. He is very worried about Kirigiri and is desperately trying to reach her. Still need to rewatch the rest of the episodes to confirm some theories. Sorry if some of them have already been mentioned. Currently don´t have much time to reread all the topics. |
SKP138 said: MoonStar9 said: Kirigiri will die. Why? Because none of the major surviving characters from Danganronpa has a surviving ship. Sayaka - Dead. Mukuro - Dead. Chiaki - Dead. Peko - (brain)Dead. Mahiru - (brain)Dead. Gundham - (brain)Dead. Nekomaru - (brain)Dead. Yukizome - Dead. Then Hagakure's dumb prediction will come true and both he and Naegi will have a child with Asahina. R.I.P NaeGiri. :'( Also, you know... she's, like, the only one capable of figuring out the traitor due to her detective skills and stuff. So, yeah, be a good idea to kill her off. :/ I love the friendship between Komaru and Toko. AE did wonders for developing them both. I didn't like Toko until that game and I loved how mature and strong she became in that game to support Komaru. So glad Kodaka left her in Towa City with Komaru. She's far more endearing around her than she is Togami. Just precious! When did Chiaki die? I know AI Chiaki is dead but the real Chiaki's status is currently unknown. Though I'm pretty sure she is dead and I'm willing to bet that the Despair Arc ends with her death, finally giving us the answer of what happens to the real one. Poor Chiaki, both human and AI. It's presumed/expected she dies. |
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Stark700 said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Oh man, Toko is awesome, could never get enough of her from this franchise especially when she goes Genocider Syo mode. And break the 4th wall like its normal :v well~ |
| i wish and dream for the Future where everyone i care can Smile happily from their heart. But no matter where i look. how ever i see... there s no me. im not there. Just like that. |
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| First episode that wasn't really that much fun, still 3/5 though because Danganronpa. I don't care about Fukawa and Komaru at all, and Monaca suddenly being a neet (although I think she's still up to something) just felt weird and unnecessary. ...I wonder how long we'll have to wait until the boats reach Jabberwock Island. |
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| @Dreams_of_Neko Yeah, Kizakura is really suspicious. When he pointed to Gekkogahara (who was already Mechagahara by that point), maybe he knew the real one was dead already? Manecleis said: Just out of curiosity: who would take a bet and say that, somehow, Junko Enoshima is the mastermind of Danganronpa 3? Some people have this theory that at the end of DR2 Junko's AI got "instaled" into Kirigiri and/or Naegi and that they are actually the ones killing people. Like, the AI takes over their bodies etc etc. I don't like this theory much, but it exists so XD I really wish it is just Junko's influence this time, but who knows. |
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EarlCiel said: MonoReaper said: At this point the most likely theory`s are Nagei or Kirigri have a sleeping Junko AI in them and are the attackers. 35 % possibility Munakata on the edge of edgy despair being the masterdork 45% Mitarai my boy being.......whatever it may be 50 % Animeception Kodakas Ultimate Troll 68 % The random plottwist nobody expected 99 % What is even going on this is true despair 1% Sooo much truuuthhh. haha I feel like I want to brace myself for the random plottwist for at least having some clue of what's going on...but my gosh. Kodaka is legit the ultimate troll I cannot with him. Always keeping us guessing with crazy theories haha. But as you said with the Warriors of Hope...I always assumed they were dead too so it really was such a surprise. One of these nice surprises in the season! :D And you're completely right about how Monaca saw Junko. I'm assuming every remnant of despair had different reasons for joining forces with Junko, as we saw with Izuru, and these reasons really do dictate whether or not they would remain 100% loyal to Junko's vision of spreading despair all over the world. Izuru would definitely oppose this, since he just joined really for his benefit and really is doing is own thing. Then we have Komaeda who is also doing his own thing...and then there's Monaca. Monaca's out of the picture, so that's why for me Komaeda and Izuru definitely raise huge red flags. I honestly hope Izuru/Hajime will not be the mastermind. I feel like all his character development in DR2 would go to waste and the meaning of AI Chiaki alone in this game for Hajime would feel so......meaningless. Hajime basiclly found a conclusion after everything he went trough and with Hajime being the mastermind aka Izuru is in full controle......"sigh" a "boring" outcome for me^^. About Komaeda i dont care. This crazy fanatic would fit somewhat perfect for this game. And Great Gozu`s dead now is much more interesting. Monaca stated she killed nobody expect Miaya. Her neck was the main point in this killing. Same with the guards in EP1. So this is kinda confuseing. Why would she kill the guards? If she is not involved in the killing game at all? That is the strange part. But i believe she didnt lie about her statement. Only because it seems legit that Komaeda would ruin her "Despair" phase because Komaeda^^. The thing is she had no need for the Monokuma knife that is always the same and goes around from body to body. So there is the thing. Why is she so sure about Naegi? Maybe because she saw how Great Gozu was killed that she beliefs Naegi will be the "culprit"/"reason" for what ever may be happeneing to our old DR cast. The overkill would be Aoi, Togami, Kirigiri dies^^. (Fuck Hagakure nobody cares) But the thing is would she care if Junko AI did controle Naegis body and killed great Gozu? That would explain why and how he got hung up there Monaca could helped her/him. But than again......would she quit? Also the thing is it seems like the people who got killed by the knife fougth somehow. Because Great Gozu`s eye in the mask at least got cut for some reason. Seiko punshied in the wall?!? With some amount of power at least stuck in the wall and that is also a thing i dont get how and what could happened? I think the key to all this is Chisa dead. She died with open eyes. Well meaning either she could be awake around that time and got killed "strangled" than stabbed. "Blood was still fresh". So she was stabbed only in the last minutes before everyone woke up. Or did she wake up in the time she got strangled? Because it seems to me she was strangled. Well Munakata could be the reason for her crying but also our douche MC douchy douche aka third wheel could be the culprit.............or Naegi who she had a smalltalk about the RoD in the nursing room. She could not belief he would kill her after saveing her old students.......... I dont know.................KODAKA STOP THIS SUFFERING Q_Q. |
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