| I see that people keep complaining about how the last part of Erased and Evangelion 3.0 for having time skip, which is not really matters for me, why does this bugs people out? |
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You said: IDK people don't like change I guess.I see that people keep complaining about how the last part of Erased and Evangelion 3.0 for having time skip, which is not really matters for me, why does this bugs people out? |
| I guess because some characters change for the bad in some peoples opinion, they unique character traits change :3 For example one I know loved Franky before the timeskip, now his just a big robot toy, in his opinion :3 [Hello You-kun ;3] |
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| The Eva 3.0 movie was just bad in general, it wasn't the time skip. |
Ultimatedeath said: I guess because some characters change for the bad in some peoples opinion, they unique character traits change :3 For example one I know loved Franky before the timeskip, now his just a big robot toy, in his opinion :3 [Hello You-kun ;3] I see, and hello there Ultimate-chan :3 |
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Ultimatedeath said: I guess because some characters change for the bad in some peoples opinion, they unique character traits change :3 For example one I know loved Franky before the timeskip, now his just a big robot toy, in his opinion :3 [Hello You-kun ;3] I still like Franky. Robin is the one that bugs me. I loved her character pre time skip. Now she is just meh... |
| After time skip usually the quality always drop example for that is one piece. |
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| But an anime that could need a time skip imo, would be pokemon that series has gone for so long and Ash hasn't done something that made him closer to his dream of becoming pokemon master :3 I know that the creators have to keep ash, 10 years old but it's so repetitive I don't get why so many can watch it :3 |
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astrozombie84 said: Ultimatedeath said: I guess because some characters change for the bad in some peoples opinion, they unique character traits change :3 For example one I know loved Franky before the timeskip, now his just a big robot toy, in his opinion :3 [Hello You-kun ;3] I still like Franky. Robin is the one that bugs me. I loved her character pre time skip. Now she is just meh... I like how they made sanji more perverted and his nose bleeding, it's so sad and comical at the same time :3 |
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| I honestly don't know. It's probably because they can't accept the fact their waifus have grown older and they have ceased to hold their virgin maiden status.. |
| Most time skips disrupts the continuity of the stories and have characters developing without being shown to the viewer, that's why I usually don't like them. |
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| It just happens to be poorly handled. |
| They aren't always bad, but a poorly executed time skip breaks the continuity of the characterization, since there are still things happening out of screen that we're not seeing. If after a time skip the characters (or the story itself) change significantly without any given reason or proper exploration, it hurts the narrative; it's almost like starting a different show in that sense. (exactly what happens in Eva 3.0 for example, although it's not the only reason why that movie is bad). |
KamilleMkII said: The Eva 3.0 movie was just bad in general, it wasn't the time skip. This. Sometimes time skip works, sometimes not. |
Ultimatedeath said: But an anime that could need a time skip imo, would be pokemon that series has gone for so long and Ash hasn't done something that made him closer to his dream of becoming pokemon master :3 I know that the creators have to keep ash, 10 years old but it's so repetitive I don't get why so many can watch it :3 That series needs more then a time skip. It needs better writers. Every episode is pretty much the same. Of course its intended to be watched on TV every Saturday...well not sure what day they air it in japan. Anyways its definitely not meant to be marathoned. In fact that could be considered a form of torture. Hey thats a good idea! We should make terrorists watch all 19 seasons of pokemon. We wont stop until they give us the information we want. |
| Well in SAO after the first episode or so there's a two year timeskip.. It would've been way more interesting to see how people coped with living in a game once they heard they were stuck but nope, they just skipped all that and made it boring. I guess that's the problem with a lot of timeskips: the story becomes inconsistent because you just get told a lot of time has passed but you don't experience it There are shows with well-handled time skips (I thought the one between Code Geass & Code Geass R2 was rather well done), but many just put in a time-skip for no real reason (Naruto's 'training') or the time-skip just makes the show feel rather rushed (SAO) |
DaMoonWolf said: Well in SAO after the first episode or so there's a two year timeskip.. It would've been way more interesting to see how people coped with living in a game once they heard they were stuck but nope, they just skipped all that and made it boring. It's because the writer of SAO is such a hack that actually giving his characters humanity is a task he is not equipped to perform. |
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OtakuOne said: They're not really bad. But some animes like Boku dake ga Inai Machi had a bad timeskip. I didn't think the time skip was that bad on ERASED. It definitely was a shock tho. DaMoonWolf said: Well in SAO after the first episode or so there's a two year timeskip.. It would've been way more interesting to see how people coped with living in a game once they heard they were stuck but nope, they just skipped all that and made it boring. I guess that's the problem with a lot of timeskips: the story becomes inconsistent because you just get told a lot of time has passed but you don't experience it Yup it would've been like 100x better if they showed the progression of, literally everything and everyone. I feel like if the first arc had more progression as opposed to 3 completely unrelated arcs, then this anime would've been so much better. |
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| They hated the time skip in Erased because.... |
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| The time skip in Erased wasn't bad. In fact well-executed time skips are subtle in my opinion. |
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OtakuOne said: It was pretty bad for me. Cuz' my waifu married another man. ;-; The manga ver. was better. Yeah I didn't like that either. Like I don't blame her for that, cause what was she suppose to do wait for him to come out of a coma for the rest of her life. Still it was not a satisfying end at all. |
Is that why people rage at the ending? I just figured it was because the ending was even lamer and blander than the lame and bland material around it. I should've known better. I should've known this irritating waifu thing was a part of it. |
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| The timeskip in magi manga has worked really well! However the timeskip in naruto, aka chapter 700, was terrible |
Zelkiiro said: do you envy others for you can't have your own waifu? lmaoIs that why people rage at the ending? I just figured it was because the ending was even lamer and blander than the lame and bland material around it. I should've known better. I should've known this irritating waifu thing was a part of it. |
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| It only depend on how it is handled, no matter it is time skipped or not ... Erased has bad written ending, although it has good story in the beginning, the climax just feel meh to me ... Eva 3.0 is like coming from nowhere, what the fuck is happening with preview in 2.0 ... In overall, both just have decline in quality after timeskip ... For example of good time skip, you can read 20th Century Boys ... |
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You said: Zelkiiro said: do you envy others for you can't have your own waifu? lmaoIs that why people rage at the ending? I just figured it was because the ending was even lamer and blander than the lame and bland material around it. I should've known better. I should've known this irritating waifu thing was a part of it. Don't be silly--I have a perfectly-servicable and extremely fappable waifu. Why should I be jealous? |
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Zelkiiro said: You said: do you envy others for you can't have your own waifu? lmao Don't be silly--I have a perfectly-servicable and extremely fappable waifu. Why should I be jealous? that is more of the thing you use to fap rather than a fappable thing. |
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You said: Zelkiiro said: Don't be silly--I have a perfectly-servicable and extremely fappable waifu. Why should I be jealous? that is more of the thing you use to fap rather than a fappable thing. You don't find palm lines and segmented joints erotic? |
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OtakuOne said: It was pretty bad for me. Cuz' my waifu married another man. ;-; The manga ver. was better. LOL that's exactly the reason why my enjoyment of ERASED drastically dropped after that. Welp, gonna go read the manga if you say it's better. |
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astrozombie84 said: Ultimatedeath said: But an anime that could need a time skip imo, would be pokemon that series has gone for so long and Ash hasn't done something that made him closer to his dream of becoming pokemon master :3 I know that the creators have to keep ash, 10 years old but it's so repetitive I don't get why so many can watch it :3 That series needs more then a time skip. It needs better writers. Every episode is pretty much the same. Of course its intended to be watched on TV every Saturday...well not sure what day they air it in japan. Anyways its definitely not meant to be marathoned. In fact that could be considered a form of torture. Hey thats a good idea! We should make terrorists watch all 19 seasons of pokemon. We wont stop until they give us the information we want. lol it could actually work I think >_< |
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| As most series get worse after a timeskip for example One Piece and Dragonball. |
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Gesu- said: I honestly don't know. It's probably because they can't accept the fact their waifus have grown older and they have ceased to hold their virgin maiden status.. The timeskip between Seasons 2 and 3 of Nanoha was brutal. Almost all the lolis grow up, and they didn't deliver enough new ones to make up for that. That was tough on moe lovers like me, but for people who love lolis sexually, that was devastating, and they couldn't watch it anymore. |
| Because sometimes, characters undergo big, significant changes during timeskips, but you don't really get to see what happened to them, except maybe in a brief flashback or dialogue scene. |
| Time skips and their reception will just depend on how they were handled and whether the skipped parts were actually important or not. I had many issues with Sword Art Online, which sadly hampered my enjoyment of the series, but aside from certain issues like the blatant plot armour / holes, the majority of my qualms with SAO originate from the time skips. I was thoroughly enjoying watching Kirito et al progress through the floors of Aincrad, steadily getting stronger whilst progressing further and further. It was quite fun, and the different floor levels meant that the scenery and environment would change a lot; it kept everything fresh and interesting. I quite enjoyed that aspect of SAO. But because of the multiple and exponentially increasing time skips, it meant the development of the characters and their relationships were also skipped. Furthermore, Kirito's (and others') power progression was skipped as well. I mean, a couple of episodes in and Kirito is already known as the #1 solo player, being completely OP compared to everyone else. That's all well and good, but it's simply brushed off as "Kirito takes risks in fighting stronger monsters that other people don't, and so he gets XP faster than other people". That was it. We didn't get to see him in action, training and getting ahead of other people. It was skipped. It was seen again with the relationship between Kirito and Asuna. I had no issues with the relationship itself - it made a Hell of a lot of sense, given that they were trapped in a life-or-death situation together. This will automatically push them closer together, and since they were like that for two years, a boyfriend-girlfriend paradigm is natural. But because of the multiple time skips, they went from being testy strangers, to Asuna being all tsundere to Kirito, to them shacking it up in a cabin in the woods. We were shown them slowly getting closer, but such a large portion of it was skipped that I could only feel disappointment towards them. In both cases, I vastly would have preferred just seeing them progress more steadily without tons of content and development being skipped. Scrap the Alfheim segment and make the entire first season all about Aincrad, and my enjoyment of SAO would have gone right up, from feeling disappointment to feeling happy enough with it. The general gist of my dislike towards time skips is when important events, happenings and general development is also skipped. A example of what I feel was a good time skip was Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. After the events of the first half end, it made sense for there to be a time skip. They were given an ominous prophecy and that was it. There wasn't any need for us to watch the intermediary years because there was nothing of note happening in them. Nothing overly important was skipped, nothing that actually needed to be seen, so there was no problems with it. The skip happened after the first arc ended, not during it, which makes quite the big difference. |
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Ultimatedeath said: astrozombie84 said: That series needs more then a time skip. It needs better writers. Every episode is pretty much the same. Of course its intended to be watched on TV every Saturday...well not sure what day they air it in japan. Anyways its definitely not meant to be marathoned. In fact that could be considered a form of torture. Hey thats a good idea! We should make terrorists watch all 19 seasons of pokemon. We wont stop until they give us the information we want. lol it could actually work I think >_< do you mean the time skip or the torture? |
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KamilleMkII said: The Eva 3.0 movie was just bad in general, it wasn't the time skip. People who found it bad are mostly people who would have said the TV series was turning bad at a certain point (after the 15th, maybe a bit later?), have they followed it back then. @Kittenpotpie I had to read you twice to understand the joke. XD |
| I actually love time skips. But they just have to be done right. I didn't like the erased one bc they were just tossing too many things at me at once |
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| I personally don't have any problems with them but some people just don't like the changes characters take on and would rather a series be in one time frame. |
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| I love the time skip in Gurren Lagann. I think there just has to be a good reason for time skips. Seems silly to get upset by the time skip in Erased, since it uses time travel in part as a core mechanic. As for manga to anime differences, that's a whole different story. |
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OtakuDaikun said: The time skip itself wasn't a problem for me. I just hated the ending.I love the time skip in Gurren Lagann. I think there just has to be a good reason for time skips. Seems silly to get upset by the time skip in Erased, since it uses time travel in part as a core mechanic. As for manga to anime differences, that's a whole different story. |
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